Wesson VS A. Henry
I was looking at at sight and they had what they call a Wesson long range action. It looked the same as an Alex Henry action. It was stated that Wesson designed it independenlty. Any idea about this...
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He will have to be very convincing to prove the AH rifle was not the inspiration for the Wesson rifle,there are some mechanical differences but nothing that Henry had not tyred on other rifles
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If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like duck.... One could make a case that the A. Henry was inspired by the Sharps, but the Wesson rifle looks like a copy with some minor...
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The Frank Wesson is the oldest of the 2 rifles. Just as Peabody is the inventor of the Martini action. Lots of folks copied rifle designs and actions in abundance in the old days. Just because a...
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Reading Flaydermans guide to antique American firearms he states that the Wesson No 1 rifle was made from the early 1870s or mid 1870s,by this time the Alexander Henry side hammer rifle had been made...
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Peabody didn't invent anything much---there are lots of tilting block designs which pre-date him, including an American one which, in percussion form, was used in the Civil War (I've forgotten the...
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The Wesson the oldest? I don't think so. Not if you know that the Alex Henry participated in the trials which led to the selection of the Martini. I'll quote from the website of Steve Earle: "The...
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Fred,I think you were thinking of the Cosmopolitan or the Gwyn and Campbell. (No relation !!)Gwyn Jones
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OK, I just checked and I think you are correct about the Wesson coming in later, but Peabody did design the martini action, I have seen the patent drawings, I have a copy. Martini used the Peabody...
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What Martini did was to adapt the Schmidt and Yung ignition System to the Peabody action, eliminating the side lock....It's A Peabody patent rifle with a Martini patent ignition system
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Providence actually produced a hammerless Peabody? Not as far as I know. I do know Peabody held a patent for an internal hammer action, but not for a hammerless striker action. No, I'm making a...
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I would think the Peabody rifle had a influence in the design of the Martini rifle,but the the steam carige also had a infuence in the design of the T model Ford but no one claims they are designed by...
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Providence Tool did produce a hammerles model, both military contracts for Turkey, Romania, and some others. Some of our individual states purchased these for the state militia's. Some of these...
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If you can get hold of (DIGEST OR U.S. PATENTS RELATING TO BREECH LOADING AND MAGAZINE SMALL ARMS 1836-1873 By V.D. Stockbridge) you will see scors of patents and drawings that aplyed to tilting...
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And that's just the US stuff - many more on the other side of the pond, usually based on the Martini (Swinburn, Field , Zeller...), but probably even more variation than the US. Mike, you are right of...
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I happen to own a Providence Tool Co. Peabody-Martini Kill Deer rifle, low serial number, that I bought as an action less the breechblock, extractor and barrel/forend. I've seen originals by PTC,...
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Perhaps some line drawings will show the similarities (and differences) between the Martini and the Peabody.
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To summarize - extractor , yes, breechblock, yes - BUT that pivoting breechblock isn't a Peabody invention, as it already existed before... Loacking system and firing system are different.
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There is no definitive answer to who invented individual aspects of the Martini system. Virtually every aspect of the Peabody and Martini systems can be found in earlier patent applications. There is...
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In my opinion, Martini became famous by being the right person in the right place at the right time - and getting his action adopted by the Brits. The best reference you could dream of... Inc those...
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Hi MartiniBelgain, your correct and the size of the British Empire was huge and what a large volume that would have been. Then the commercial models. What really surprised me was the amount of custom...
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